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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:19 pm 
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The possibility of the Giants trading Rodgers-Cromartie to the Dolphins for Albert is mere speculation. However, with Rodgers-Cromartie only having played 63 percent of the snaps this season, there is a chance that they might not want to pay $8.5 million for their No. 3 cornerback.

The Giants have an uneasy situation at left tackle. They aren’t sure what they want to do with 2015 first round pick Ereck Flowers, who’s development is far behind where they expected it to be.

With a possibility of Flowers moving to the right side, the Giants will likely be looking for a veteran to fill his spot. Albert will be 33 years old in November and has had plenty of experience in the NFL.


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I mentioned this as a possible trade scenario earlier today and the stars may be aligning for this deal.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:27 pm 
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Whenever the Giants ' potential offseason salary cap cuts are discussed - like Tuesday morning, for example - fans and readers are very passionate about Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie's inclusion on the list.

For many, the mere suggestion the Giants could part ways with the veteran cornerback is cause for outrage. The guy earned All-Pro honors as a slot cornerback , after all, and the whole world saw the Giants go off the rails in Green Bay after he got injured against the Packers in the playoffs.

The situation is not as simple as what DRC does on the field, though. There's a lot more nuance to it.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:27 pm 
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Albert is hurt a lot, but he is a good player when healthy. Cromartie is expensive and old too. Draft and other options please.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:37 pm 
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Albert is hurt a lot, but he is a good player when healthy. Cromartie is expensive and old too. Draft and other options please.



What are you smoking? He had 6 interceptions as part of the best secondary in the NFL this year and PFF had him rated the 11th best corner in december.

Anyone who watched that playoff loss to Green Bay and any Giants fan will tell you as soon as DRC got injured in that game the wheels fell off for New York and Rodgers began to destroy them.
Eli Apple is no DRC.
The guy has always been a stud. And reading fan boards Giants fans are pissed off he could be traded.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:38 pm 
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Oh i see you rescinded the comment about DRC sucking. LOL. Smart move.

He's 30 but still has crazy speed the way Darrell Green did.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:48 pm 
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I still don't believe the cb talk considering Lippett and Howard have a lot of upside especially being as cheap as they are and other then Adam Beasley who no offense I like him but he's #3 in my ranking of local Dolphin insiders I haven't seem anybody report The same thing plus I still haven't seen anywhere that Maxwell is on the chopping block so I'm lost. With that said the smart play is getting the draft picks and then you have ammunition to get multiple guys like we did last season


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:11 pm 
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Bigblueunbiased.com had him as the 5th best corner this year according to PFF and an All-Pro.


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Let me start with this: if I were the general manager of the New York Giants, I’d have no problem paying Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie what he’s owed next season (almost $7 million) – even if he’s their third cornerback.

DRC was an All-Pro last season and Pro Football Focus’ fifth-best cornerback.

But I could understand why the organization would have no problem releasing him – saving $5 million – or trading him to fill a need on offense.


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This is not going to happen.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:10 pm 
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swerve13 wrote:
PFF had him rated the 11th best corner in december.


They had Byron Maxwell rated as the 11th best corner for 2016.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:05 pm 
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swerve13 wrote:
PFF had him rated the 11th best corner in december.


They had Byron Maxwell rated as the 11th best corner for 2016.


DRC finished 5th.


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Wow....playing pretty awesome at 30. Brent Grimes part deux? When I first read this thread, I had DRC confused with the Jets/colts Antonio Cromartie....he did suck but got cut early on last season.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:29 pm 
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Here's my thing if this cb rumor is true which I still don't believe who plays nickel between the new cb, Lippett and Howard? Lippett and Howard have a lot of promise but neither play inside and Maxwell played very well so unless its a stud nickel cb that can match the Patriots slot guys I really have no idea what the point is


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Promise? LOL. You mean potential? No thanks.


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Promise? LOL. You mean potential? No thanks.


So potential is out the window for a guy on the wrong side of 30?

Love DRC as well, but that statement needs challenging.


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Rich wrote:
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PFF had him rated the 11th best corner in december.


They had Byron Maxwell rated as the 11th best corner for 2016.


PFF's rankings for 2016. I can see the trade happening. They are both old.

Notice the guy at #19.

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Man I can't believe Jamar Taylor is still in the league, let alone a top 20 corner lol


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Grimes is #4. Huh. I didn't think he had that good a year. What happened to him for the playoff game? I didn't see him then.


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Lol cb rankings on PFF are the worst especially when they don't factor in the pass rush and safety help. DRC is legit as hell though and an instant playmaker


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Lol cb rankings on PFF are the worst especially when they don't factor in the pass rush and safety help. DRC is legit as hell though and an instant playmaker


Did you used to work at PFF to know how they formulate their rankings?


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ag_fin_90 wrote:
Lol cb rankings on PFF are the worst especially when they don't factor in the pass rush and safety help. DRC is legit as hell though and an instant playmaker


Did you used to work at PFF to know how they formulate their rankings?


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Naw I just read what writers and ppersonnel guys say. Also everybody knows that secondary guys talk before the snap to see who has who and that's why chemistry is so I important. Once again that's not rocket science its aactually known by anybody who knows football so how would guys who aren't on the team know what the players are saying, thinking, and where the assignments that the coaches give?


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ag_fin_90 wrote:
Lol cb rankings on PFF are the worst especially when they don't factor in the pass rush and safety help. DRC is legit as hell though and an instant playmaker


Did you used to work at PFF to know how they formulate their rankings?


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Naw I just read what writers and ppersonnel guys say. Also everybody knows that secondary guys talk before the snap to see who has who and that's why chemistry is so I important. Once again that's not rocket science its aactually known by anybody who knows football so how would guys who aren't on the team know what the players are saying, thinking, and where the assignments that the coaches give?


It's not that difficult to look at the All 22 film and figure out what type of defense is being run. You really only have the following options:

Man to man cover 2
Man to man cover 1
Man to man cover 0
Zone Cover 2 under or over
Zone Cover 3 under or over
Zone Cover 4 under or over
Cover 8

Everything else is just a variation of those coverages depending on if you are rushing 3 or 4 or blitzing.

I'm pretty sure anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of football can look at the all 22 and figure out what the coverage assignments are at least 90% of the time based on the safety formation and the reaction of the players at the start of a play.

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